{"id":8988,"date":"2014-10-09T17:44:27","date_gmt":"2014-10-09T21:44:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=8988"},"modified":"2014-10-09T17:44:27","modified_gmt":"2014-10-09T21:44:27","slug":"more-about-that-bleak-mars-one-simulation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=8988","title":{"rendered":"More about that &#8220;bleak&#8221; Mars One simulation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I <a href=\"http:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=8978\" target=\"_blank\">pointed earlier<\/a> to an MIT student project that simulated a base on Mars similar to that proposed by the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mars-one.org\" target=\"_blank\">Mars One<\/a> organization. \u00a0(See the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/web.mit.edu\/sydneydo\/Public\/Mars%20One%20Feasibility%20Analysis%20IAC14.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Mars simulation paper (pdf)<\/a>). \u00a0Mars One chief\u00a0Bas Lansdorp responds in the comments to this post:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacepolicyonline.com\/news\/mit-analysis-paints-bleak-outcome-for-mars-one-concept\" target=\"_d\">MIT Analysis Paints Bleak Outcome for Mars One Concept &#8211; SpacePolicyOnline.com<\/a>\u00a0.<\/p>\n<p>Stewart Money also considers the &#8220;bleak&#8221; description as overly pessimistic:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/innerspace.net\/mars-2\/the-mars-one-plan-bleak-or-needs-to-be-tweeked\/\" target=\"_d\">The Mars One Plan: Bleak? or Needs to be Tweeked? &#8211;\u00a0Innerspace.net<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>There is no doubt that Mars One is risky concept, and if it is to ever gain real traction, it will have to endure a lot more scrutiny than presented in the MIT study. \u00a0It should probably begin with a clear statement that Mars One is meant as an evolving concept, in which the final product may differ considerable from what has initially been put forward on a time frame which like all space projects, is subject to change. \u00a0At the same time, its many critics might want to at least consider how much of the risk to any future Mars mission, whether one way of with a return ticket, could be reduced through advancing the Technological Readiness Level (TRL) of some of the core technologies the MIT team identifies.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Finally, they might want to ask why the U.S. is committed to a very different, but perhaps even more financially implausible plan.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I pointed earlier to an MIT student project that simulated a base on Mars similar to that proposed by the Mars One organization. \u00a0(See the\u00a0Mars simulation paper (pdf)). \u00a0Mars One chief\u00a0Bas Lansdorp responds in the comments to this post:\u00a0MIT Analysis Paints Bleak Outcome for Mars One Concept &#8211; SpacePolicyOnline.com\u00a0. Stewart Money also considers the &#8220;bleak&#8221; &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=8988\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">More about that &#8220;bleak&#8221; Mars One simulation<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[35,40,18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8988","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-diy-space","category-simulators","category-space-settlement"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p34aWK-2kY","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8978,"url":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=8978","url_meta":{"origin":8988,"position":0},"title":"Misc: ISEE-3 Reboot Project review + Leland Melvin and Spaceship Earth Grants + Mars One sim shows big challenges","author":"TopSpacer","date":"October 8, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Here's a set of links that have been sitting in my queue. --- Here is an\u00a0article\u00a0that tells the story of the\u00a0ISEE-3 Reboot Project's successful effort to contact and gain control of the\u00a0International Sun-Earth Explorer 3 unmanned probe (ISEE-3), which was launched by NASA in 1978 and subsequently redirected to follow\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;DIY space&quot;","block_context":{"text":"DIY space","link":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?cat=35"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":9001,"url":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=9001","url_meta":{"origin":8988,"position":1},"title":"Video: Mars One discussion on Bloomberg","author":"TopSpacer","date":"October 11, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"In this Bloomberg video: Bas Lansdorp, co-founder and CEO of Mars One, and Helen Greiner, CEO of CyPhy Works and co-founder of iRobot, discuss the efforts to put a human colony on Mars with Pimm Fox on \"Taking Stock.\" (Source: Bloomberg) Lansdorp claims that the one-way approach lowers costs. 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