{"id":6879,"date":"2014-03-13T21:08:36","date_gmt":"2014-03-13T21:08:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=6879"},"modified":"2014-03-14T22:19:15","modified_gmt":"2014-03-14T22:19:15","slug":"space-policy-roundup-march-13-14","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=6879","title":{"rendered":"Space policy roundup &#8211; March.13.14 [Updated]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A post by Stewart Money about NASA undermining a technology that threatens the SLS:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/innerspace.net\/nasa\/detailed-nasa-budget-bad-news-for-europa-propellant-depot-advocates\/\" target=\"_d\">Detailed NASA Budget Bad News for Europa, Propellant Depot Advocates &#8211; Innerspace.net<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Arguably, there is no greater enabling technology to be achieved with less overall investment than cryogenic propellant storage and transfer.\u00a0\u00a0While we currently have the ability to conduct long term deep space missions using storable hypergolic propellants, their relatively low performance is a critical limiting factor in both robotic and crewed space missions.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0Developing and demonstrating the ability store high performance cryogenic propellants in space for long periods of time without significant boil-off is nothing less than a necessity for long term exploration.\u00a0\u00a0Taken together with the closely related challenge of transferring cryogenic propellants from one container to another in zero-g, as well as accurately measuring the amount of fluid in a storage vessel, the net result is leveraging effect with stunning capacity.\u00a0\u00a0In fact, as the Augustine commission determined,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u201cIn the absence of in-space refueling, the U.S. human spaceflight program will require a heavy-lift launcher of significantly greater than 25 mt capability to launch the EDS and its fuel. However the picture changes significantly if in-space refueling is used.\u201d Furthermore \u201cStudies commissioned by the Committee found that in-space refueling could increase by at least\u00a0<i>two to three times\u00a0<\/i>the injection\u00a0capability from low-Earth orbit of a launcher system, and in some cases more. Thus, an in-space refueling capability would make larger super-heavy lift vehicles even more capable, and would\u00a0enable smaller ones to inject from low-Earth orbit a mass comparable to what larger launchers can do without in space refueling.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">For a nation and an agency serious about exploring space, it is difficult to think of a single justifiable reason why proceeding with an orbital demonstration of this enabling technology should not be a priority. It is very easy to come up with an unjustifiable reason however.\u00a0\u00a0It represents a viable alternative to SLS.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">NASA, driven by Congress, studiously ignored Augustine\u2019s findings when formulating plans for the Space Launch System, and as other websites have established, effectively buried internal studies showing that propellant deports offer a lower cost alternative on a much quicker time frame. \u00a0\u00a0With a planned sub-scale flight demonstration now off the table, supporters of the \u201cmega booster\u201d will continue to be able to point to the absence of an actual demonstration of cryogenic transfer and storage as the circular justification for pressing on.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>More space policy\/politics related links:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>NASA Budget:\n<ul>\n<li><a style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\" href=\"http:\/\/behindtheblack.com\/behind-the-black\/points-of-information\/the-obama-administration-budget-proposal-for-nasa-includes-shutting-down-opportunity-in-2015\" target=\"_d\">The Obama administration budget proposal for NASA includes shutting down Opportunity in 2015. &#8211; Behind The Black<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacepolicyonline.com\/news\/nasas-jim-green-worried-about-lro-comments-on-cassini-extension-and-europa?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Spacepolicyonline+%28SpacePolicyOnline+News%29\" target=\"_d\">NASA&#8217;s Jim Green Worried About LRO, Comments on Cassini Extension and Europa &#8211; SpacePolicyOnline.com<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Politics:\n<ul>\n<li><a style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\" href=\"http:\/\/ricochet.com\/member-feed\/No-Rush-Obama-Has-Not-Turned-NASA-Into-A-Muslim-Outreach-Department\" target=\"_d\">No, Rush, Obama Has Not Turned NASA Into A Muslim Outreach Department &#8211; Ricochet.com<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Russia\/US\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacepolitics.com\/2014\/03\/13\/crimea-crisis-becomes-new-argument-for-commercial-crew-funding\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=crimea-crisis-becomes-new-argument-for-commercial-crew-funding\" target=\"_d\">Crimea crisis becomes new argument for commercial crew funding &#8211; Space Politics<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/clayton-anderson\/iss-calling-russia-friend-or-foe_b_4912989.html\" target=\"_d\">ISS Calling Russia: Friend or Foe?\u00a0&#8211;\u00a0Clayton Anderson\/Huffington Post<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><span style=\"line-height: 1.5em;\">Defense space:<\/span>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacepolitics.com\/2014\/03\/13\/a-european-wildcard-for-eelv-competition\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=a-european-wildcard-for-eelv-competition\" target=\"_d\">A European wildcard for EELV competition &#8211; Space Politics<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.defense.gov\/news\/newsarticle.aspx?id=121826\" target=\"_d\">Officials Update Congress on Military Space Policy, Challenges &#8211; Defense.gov<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nextgov.com\/emerging-tech\/2014\/03\/pentagon-wants-help-tracking-space-debris\/80416\/\" target=\"_d\">Pentagon Wants Help Tracking Space Debris &#8211; Nextgov.com<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Florida Space Day\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.floridatoday.com\/article\/20140313\/NEWS01\/303130015\/Space-leaders-pay-visit-Capitol\" target=\"_d\">Space leaders pay visit to Capitol: How space went from a superpowers-only club to a DIY playground. \u00a0&#8211; Florida Today<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacepolitics.com\/2014\/03\/12\/space-lobbying-today-in-washington-and-tallahassee\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=space-lobbying-today-in-washington-and-tallahassee\" target=\"_d\">Space lobbying today in Washington and Tallahassee &#8211; Space Politics<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Some space policy webcasts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>[<strong>Update<\/strong>:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/thespaceshow.wordpress.com\/2014\/03\/14\/dr-robert-zubrin-thursday-3-13-14\/\" target=\"_d\">Dr. Robert Zubrin, Thursday, 3-13-14 | Thespaceshow&#8217;s Blog<\/a>]<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/thespaceshow.wordpress.com\/2014\/03\/13\/john-batchelor-hotel-mars-wednesday-3-12-14\/\" target=\"_d\">John Batchelor Hotel Mars, Wednesday, 3-12-14 &#8211; Thespaceshow&#8217;s Blog<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; Dennis Wingo discussed &#8220;upcoming NASA budget choices with SLS-Orion, the ISS, &amp; other programs.\u00a0 Dennis proposes ways for the programs to work together and be supportive of each other rather than having them compete for tight NASA funds.\u00a0 We talked about the SLS flight plans &amp; schedule, Falcon Heavy, and the role of Congress in these matters.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.behindtheblack.com\" target=\"_blank\">Bob Zimmerman<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; space news and commentary\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/johnbatchelorshow.com\/podcasts\/2014\/03\/12\/third-hour\" target=\"_d\">Wed 3\/12\/14 Hr 3 | John Batchelor Show<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/johnbatchelorshow.com\/podcasts\/2014\/03\/11\/third-hour\" target=\"_d\">Tues 3\/11\/14 Hr 3 | John Batchelor Show<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.planetary.org\/multimedia\/planetary-radio\/show\/2014\/20140311-exploring-black-holes-and-supernovae-with-nustar.html\" target=\"_d\">Exploring Black Holes and Supernovae With NuSTAR &#8211; The Planetary Society<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; incl. some discussion of NASA budget<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.planetary.org\/press-room\/releases\/2014\/0313-planetary-society-statement-on-fy15-nasa-budget-request.html\" target=\"_d\">The Planetary Society\u2019s Statement on the FY2015 NASA Budget Request &#8211; The Planetary Society<\/a>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.planetary.org\/blogs\/casey-dreier\/2014\/0314-official-statement-on-nasas-2015-budget.html\" target=\"_d\">Our Official Response to NASA&#8217;s 2015 Budget Proposal &#8211; The Planetary Society<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacepolitics.com\/2014\/03\/14\/hagel-defense-department-plans-review-of-dependence-on-rd-180\/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=hagel-defense-department-plans-review-of-dependence-on-rd-180\" target=\"_d\">Hagel: Defense Department plans \u201creview\u201d of dependence on RD-180 &#8211; Space Politics<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p>**************************<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"width: 120px; height: 240px;\" src=\"http:\/\/rcm-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/e\/cm?t=hobbyspace&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=0989135519&amp;ref=tf_til&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;bc1=000000&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr\" height=\"240\" width=\"320\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A post by Stewart Money about NASA undermining a technology that threatens the SLS:\u00a0Detailed NASA Budget Bad News for Europa, Propellant Depot Advocates &#8211; Innerspace.net Arguably, there is no greater enabling technology to be achieved with less overall investment than cryogenic propellant storage and transfer.\u00a0\u00a0While we currently have the ability to conduct long term deep &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=6879\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Space policy roundup &#8211; March.13.14 [Updated]<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6879","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-space-policy"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p34aWK-1MX","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5336,"url":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=5336","url_meta":{"origin":6879,"position":0},"title":"That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called a monster rocket + MAVEN and humans Mars missions","author":"TopSpacer","date":"November 18, 2013","format":false,"excerpt":"Ray at the\u00a0Vision Restoration\u00a0blog discusses the SLS\/Orion choir service\u00a0last week:\u00a0SLS for Unaffordable Giant Robotic Missions: The More Things Don't Change, the More They Stay the Same - Vision Restoration One of the messages that the panelists sought to drive home was that SLS will be a wonderful launcher for ambitious\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Space Policy&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Space Policy","link":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?cat=7"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/img.youtube.com\/vi\/0F8ndihXCO4\/0.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":11681,"url":"https:\/\/hobbyspace.com\/Blog\/?p=11681","url_meta":{"origin":6879,"position":1},"title":"Videos: Talks given at NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) Fall Symposium","author":"TopSpacer","date":"October 30, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"The\u00a0NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC)\u00a0office funds studies into all sorts of leading and beyond leading edge ideas for space development. 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