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ISDC 2008 - Thursday Morning - Session 1: Virgin Galactic

Will Whitehorn of Virgin Galactic
- Space has become more relevant to the public in the past 3 years since he first attended the ISDC
- A small county in NM even passed a tax increase on themselves for space
- Spent a $100M to get to the point where their commercial spaceflight system begins tests this summer.
- Branson says "Better to follow a pioneer than to be a pioneer", i.e. the pioneer often runs into big problems.
- The X-15 program was ahead of its time. Needed technologies like composites to be practical.
- Finding out about the development of the WK1/SS1 early this decade was a big surprise. Began talks with Burt about a commercial version.
- After the X PRIZE success, the project got going. In first year, received $10M in deposits. Proved to Virgin group investment committee that the project was viable and they agreed to the funding.
- Customers made clear they wanted a big open area in which they could float around and look out and take pictures.
- Customer comments convinced them a "SS1.5" wouldn't be of interest.
- See significant market for carrying scientists as well as tourists.
- Showing recent pictures of WK2/SS2 construction
- WK2 will be the world's largest totally composite aircraft (787 is only 60% composite).
- Tourist groups will go first on the WK2 to see a SS2 launch before going themselves.
- Mounted WK2 wing two weeks ago. Engines going on this week.
- July 28th is the roll-out
- Flights in September.
- Will test for 6-8 months before starting incremental tests with SS2.
- No fixed date to start passenger flights.
- Test flight program will need to make them 100% confident in its safety before using for passengers.
- Fall back position is to use it for science missions and small sat launcher.
- Commercial spaceflight cannot afford a "Hindenburg moment".
- So "got to get it right".
- Describes the experience of a passenger ride on SS2.
- 3 days of training before a flight.
- Passenger training experience (which includes centrifuge) so far has shown that 94% of potential customers can safely take the flights. People in their 80s have passed the training tests.
- Asked Burt to give the WK2 long range.
- The NM site is a great place for a spaceport. Low population helps with safety and insurance.
- Clear air space. Local resources incl. White Sands infrastructure.
- The facility will be nearly carbon neutral. Designed for low energy use.
- "Theme park for space" - lots of access and visibility for SS2 operations.
- Show a video clip with Rutan, Branson, scenes from assembly line, etc
Questions:
- If SS2 a success, then SS3 will be developed for orbital access
- SS1 cost $25M-30M. The SS2 will be in the $250M range. Paul Allen will "get his money back".
- Status on propulsion: Describes the explosion as an industrial accident. Rocket propulsion development now going ahead with lessons learned from the accident.
- (BTW: I heard a rumor that they may use wax fueled hybrids.)
- Discusses how students should prepare for a career in commercial space.
- Prices will come down but can't say how fast. Expect it will get well below $100k within 4 to 5 years of operation.
- XCOR is building a MIG equivalent but not a spaceship where passengers can move around.
- If cheap enough, Virgin will buy Lynxes.

Announcement from George Whitesides and Virgin Galactic:
- Space Ambassador project - www.spaceambassadors.com
- One ambassador will be selected for a free flight on the SS2
- NSS Press Release
- Whitehorn says they plan more such programs with other groups.

Comments

What exactly did he say about upcoming students interested in getting into the industry, if you remember of course.

I really appreciate your daily updates on this website!

Posted by Nick at 05/29/08 23:44:43

Hi Nick,
Sorry, I don't recall any specific advice that he gave. I just remember that he laughed and said that whenever he is asked that question he remembers that his own education was in economics and business rather than in a technical area.

I would suggest regularly checking the job listings at the various rocket companies and seeing what are the most commonly demanded skills. Just realize, though, that as with Whitehorn, there can be many routes that lead into the field, especially if it starts to expand rapidly in the coming years.

- Clark

Posted by TopSpacer at 05/30/08 21:32:47

Hi Clark,
You're doing a great job as always. Interesting that you mention that VG might be using a wax based solid fuel. I asked Will Whitehorn about their propulsion development options some time ago. He said that wax, which I knew had been investigated by Stanford University, was rejected as an option. I have some thoughts on the solid fuel options and will comment in due course.
Rob

Posted by Rob Coppinger at 06/01/08 15:14:31

Hi Rob,
Thanks for the comment. Looking forward to your reports on the fuel options and other WK2/SS2 topics.

Maybe at the WK2 roll-out there will be more info revealed about the SS2 propulsion system.

- Clark

Posted by TopSpacer at 06/01/08 22:31:38

Maybe at the WK2 roll-out there will be more info revealed about the SS2 propulsion system.

Posted by wow gold at 06/13/08 00:31:28

It costs money to begin something

Posted by •s“®ŽY“ŠŽ‘ at 10/23/08 18:56:56
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